Actually, I just rechecked, and you had answered me. https://code.ros.org/trac/ros/ticket/1669 The ability to get parameters using a command is indispensable when you are trying to automagically determine the correct device to open. I have seen a case where it would have been nice to do a with a command because there were potentially a whole bunch of parameters involved (turns out there were only two, but that was just luck). The case I saw where a more general $(command ) tag would have been useful was when I was trying to get pr2.launch so that it could be optionally be pushed into a namespace. The idea was to do: ROS_NAMESPACE=prl roslaunch pr2.launch Some remappings (diagnostics, diagnostic aggregation, TF) needed to get done to make this work well, and I could really have used a $(command ) tag to allow slashes to be added or removed as appropriate. (In the end limitations in diagnostic aggregation also prevented me from making it happen.) The or tag would be really useful when you want to run something that isn't ROS aware and don't want it confused by its __name and __log arguments. As for the problem of sequencing commands, would it really be so bad to say that relying on command order execution will lead to undefined behavior, and adding an option to roslaunch to run things in a random order with random startup delays so that it is easy to regression test? (I'm talking about whether it is a good feature here, not about whether you have had the chance to implement.) Cheers, Blaise On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 09:05 -0700, Ken Conley wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Blaise Gassend > wrote: > I have asked Ken why there is no $(command ) macro in > roslaunch but > never got an answer... I have seen cases beyond parameters > where it > would have been handy... but perhaps hacky. > > > Must have slipped my mind because I don't recall a ticket. My only > issues with command hacks is that it is much easier to put something > in there that is non-portable, and validation is much, much trickier. > It has its uses, though. > > I've always wanted to a top-level or tag to > complement the tag as many things that are called s in > roslaunch are not actually ROS nodes (and can have different assumed > behaviors). We attempted to design this prior to ROS 1.0, but it > quickly spiraled out of control with respect to scope. Unlike nodes, > commands are sequence-able because they normally terminate, unlike > nodes which do not. Once you attempt to add sequencing to roslaunch > for a particular tag, things the design space gets arbitrarily large > (especially when considering remote launches). > > I was hoping to have more time to overhaul the roslaunch syntax this > iteration, but it looks like that won't happen until D-Turtle. > > - Ken > > _______________________________________________ > ros-users mailing list > ros-users@code.ros.org > https://code.ros.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-users