Ah yes forgot to say i was following the tutorial: http://www.ros.org/wiki/sicktoolbox_wrapper/Tutorials/UsingTheSicklms except for my rosparam rosparam set sicklms/port /dev/ttyUSB0 rosparam set sicklms/baud 500000 rosparam set sicklms/angle 180 rosparam set sicklms/resolution 1 it kept crashing within a few seconds then i went on to try to run spacenav teleop turtle which didnt work by the way that will be another thread. once the spacenav was running then rviz stayed working, very strange could it be some kind of buffer problem? at any rate how do i use the debug tool i'm not following This is the command to start it from the tutorial rosrun rviz rviz -d `rospack find sicktoolbox_wrapper`/sick_test.vcg Do i just use the debug commands like so or should i give it some arguments. valgrind rosrun rviz rviz -d `rospack find sicktoolbox_wrapper`/sick_test.vcg gdb rosrun rviz rviz -d `rospack find sicktoolbox_wrapper`/sick_test.vcg -- View this message in context: http://ros-users.122217.n3.nabble.com/Sick-LMS200-display-wrong-in-rviz-tp1561531p1568201.html Sent from the ROS-Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.