On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Nico Hochgeschwender < nico.hochgeschwender@h-brs.de> wrote: > I am one of the authors of the paper and I can give some more details > about ZMQ. > > - The objective of our paper was to look into scalability issues for > typical publish/subscribe systems. We did not modified roscpp and we used a > plain ZMQ stack and the roscpp stack. > > - IMO the major advantage of ZMQ is the ability to build highly-efficient > systems with a combination of different ZMQ sockets such as broker, queue, > dealer and router and a combination of thereof. However, to construct such > highly-efficient applications demands detailed knowledge about the topology > "and deployment setting (inproc, inter-proc, WAN, LAN,..). I am not sure > how to generalize this in a new transport layer for ROS. But that's maybe a > great challenge for this SIG :) > Well roscpp at least already determines whether a publisher is in-process or not, and I feel like with little effort we could add a bit more info to the master and pub/sub APIs to provide specifications for multicast. We could even make it compatible with the TransportHints interface, but make it m This would be especially useful for heavy systems like TF (small packets at high rate) or camera streams (large packets at slower rates). > > In the spirit of the new dependency-choice philosophy of ROS 2.0 I think >> zmq is a really good choice because (a) it does what we would want ROS to >> do, and (b) it's supported by a commercial entity [5]. If someone had time >> to prototype a modification to roscpp in ros_comm as well as the master to >> allow for zmq-based TCP/UDP/PGM (multicast) without changing the current >> ROS API, that would be really cool. Fundamentally, it would work the same >> as the current ROS networking architecture, which means we'd also be able >> to compare performance to the current implementation. >> > > I am really curious about ROS 2.0. However, I do not have any detailed > information about it. Is there any material available?..Sigh..I missed > ROSCON. > "ROS 2.0" is like the bin that all the nice-to-haves get thrown into. While 2.0 is like a revolution and potentially a complete re-thinking of how ROS might work, what I'm talking about is just making the current paradigms we have better and a bit more powerful. So is anyone interested in fixing the current ROS transport by replacing the guts with zmq instead of imagining / re-imagining / re-writing the way we communicate in ROS entirely? -j -- Jonathan Bohren Laboratory for Computational Sensing and Robotics http://dscl.lcsr.jhu.edu/People/JonathanBohren