If we are thinking about retiring the turtle themed naming, why not send it out by giving it the acknowledgement it deserves. 

Legendary Logo

The shirt/logo could be the turtle spelling out Legendary, maybe throw in a period drawn out by the classic: repeat 100 [fd 100 rt 100] (try it for yourself: https://turtleacademy.com/learn.php) 

As for an alternative naming in the future, I'm partial to space (Martian, Neptune, Orion...) as it recognizes the expanding ROS universe. 

-Chris

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Allison Thackston via ros-users <ros-users@lists.ros.org> wrote:

I'm partial to the "lucky" adjective. 

Maybe "Lucky Loggerhead" or "Lucky Logo" ?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM David Lu!! via ros-users <ros-users@lists.ros.org> wrote:

There are more Google image results for "Virtruvian Turtle" than I expected. 

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Morgan Quigley via ros-users <ros-users@lists.ros.org> wrote:

"Logo Loggerhead"

+9 bonus points for anyone who writes a LOGO client for ROS

+42 if it runs on Apple ][  😆

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jackie Kay via ros-users <ros-users@lists.ros.org> wrote:

"Leonine Loggerhead"?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Devon Ash via ros-users <ros-users@lists.ros.org> wrote:

Great, lion project shut down before it started.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:58 PM, David Lu!! <davidvlu+ros@gmail.com> wrote:

However, there is something to be said for consistency and uniqueness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Lion)

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Devon Ash via ros-users <ros-users@lists.ros.org> wrote:

To spice things up, I'm still going to propose Leonardo Lion with these four points to counter the four points above:

1. A Lion robot hasn't been made yet, and we're doing futuristic work with goals and ambitions such that our operating system will run a lion

2. We can keep all the old turtle references. But in the future start making Lion references to show newness, and a vibrancy for the future of ROS

3. Lions have always been symbols of courage and pride in the work from all of history

4. If ROS is the Lion, then we are the lion tamers. I'd say we're all a pretty smart bunch

🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Arkapravo Bhaumik <arkapravobhaumik@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Devon, joq

The reasons cited for the turtle reference are;

1.  Reference to the first mobile robots made; William Grey Walter's Elmer and Elsie - Turtle robots
2. LOGO Turtle, probably the simplest GUI based simulations for navigation. ROS also has a package very similar to the LOGO Turtle and it is often recommended as a tutorial for newbies.
3. "It's turtles all the way down" - iconic references in various popular texts, viz. Brief History Of Time
   
4. Proverbial reference of the turtle and the hare - where hard and consistent labour wins over street smartness - isn't ROS much like that
   

So, seems we are stuck with the turtle, least for some time to come ! :-)

Regards,

Arkapravo

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