[ros-release] Hosting .deb packages not build by buildfarm.

Vincent Rabaud vincent.rabaud at gmail.com
Tue Nov 24 09:05:06 UTC 2015

Are those dependencies installable through pip ? If so, you can add them to
rosdep, e.g. :

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Asmodehn Shade via ros-release <
ros-release at lists.ros.org> wrote:

> Hi Tully,
> Thank you for the detailed explanation.
> Indeed this would not be an ideal situation...
> I think it's worth spending more time taming catkin to get the third party
> release to work for the packages I need then.
> Cheers,
> --
> AlexV
> --
> AlexV
> 2015-11-24 11:00 GMT+09:00 Tully Foote <tfoote at osrfoundation.org>:
>> Hi Alex,
>> We technically have the ability to import deb packages built externally.
>> However, we limit the usage as much as possible to core dependencies, and
>> typically backports of things already in the packaging pipeline for newer
>> distributions.
>> The main reason for this is that we support many different platforms and
>> thus if you build only debian packages you will lock out members of the
>> community from installing that dependency on any other target platform.
>> Once it's in the upstream packaging pipeline on one platform it's
>> reasonable to expect it to be in the pipeline for other platforms.
>> Another problem we've had before is that the custom packaged dependencies
>> can diverge or get ahead of the upstream release process and that causes a
>> lot of pain when we have to make a transition to the publicly available
>> packages.
>> And lastly as you mentioned regularly updating, maintaining compatibility
>> becomes a big problem. If you make a change in a ROS package the buidlfarm
>> will automatically rebuild downstream dependencies. However if you change a
>> custom rolled debian package. If a non-ros dependency changes then we have
>> to synchronize a simultaneous rollout across all rosdistros for each layer
>> of our building, testing and public repositories. This can cost a week of
>> coordinated work, releases and buildfarm time, while requiring all other
>> releases to stop. As with Ubuntu or Debian this sort of breakage might be
>> reasonable during the prerelease stages but after a release we'd need to
>> have a policy of no ABI changes or else we get into the above situation.
>> Tully
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Asmodehn Shade via ros-release <
>> ros-release at lists.ros.org> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I am having too many problems turning all my python dependencies into
>>> deb packages with catkin.
>>> So I was thinking of building deb packages using other tools.
>>> However since the point of these package is to be used by ROS packages,
>>> would it be feasible that I build debs package on my own, and then submit
>>> it to be hosted on packages.ros.org ?
>>> Is there some kind process for this ?
>>> Please note that these packages may change quite often.
>>> Thank you for any hint.
>>> --
>>> AlexV
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