[ros-users] ROS Distribution: Box Turtle Release

Tue Apr 13 21:08:26 UTC 2010

I installed ROS a few months ago, and was working out of the

https://code.ros.org/svn/wg-ros-pkg/all

directory.  Specifically, I'm using openrave related packages, and some
packages in semantic_mapping.

I'm now installing ROS on another computer and ran into the following
problems:
1) the openrave-planning stack is not supported in turtlebox, or latest. (in
the pre-compiled binaries)  How do stacks make it into the 'ubuntu
packagable' status, and can I influence this/help?
2) given that the packages I want are not available as binaries, where is
the best place to check them out?

 https://code.ros.org/svn/wg-ros-pkg/externals/boxturtle/

does not have them (ex: openrave-planning stack).  Should I just continue to
use https://code.ros.org/svn/wg-ros-pkg/all , despite Ken's strong
encouragement?  I noticed that this is still encouraged by
http://www.ros.org/wiki/Source%20code.  Poking around the repo, there are
many different copies of the code, and it is not immediately obvious which
branches are being developed/stable/abandoned.

In general, it would be nice to have some sort of spreadsheet/table what has
the packages (or stacks) and where (in svn or via a binary) they might be
found, and how stable it would be there. (ok, that does sound like a lot of
work)

3) Assuming that the only way to get certain packages is through
rosinstall/svn co,  maybe the install wiki could include rosintall files for
'unreleased'  packages?

After about an hour of poking around the wiki and the svn repos, I think
I've found how to proceed (just using wg-ros-pkg/all.  I also looked in the
wiki's history, to find the page that I had originally used when installing
ROS)

Overall, I applaud the move to more stable packages, using stack, etc.  I've
used ROS for over a year now, and am excited that it has finally reached
package-level stability.  However, I'm troubled by how difficult it is to
run what used to be a normal install.

Thanks
Garratt

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ken Conley <kwc at willowgarage.com> wrote:

> Hi Lorenz,
>
> As Tully notes, the debian-building infrastructure is still in its
> baby stages. The source code for it is in various packages within
> "ros_installers":
>
> https://code.ros.org/svn/ros/installers/trunk
>
> There's a lot of extra, unused stuff in there, and there aren't
> instructions on setting up your own infrastructure yet.
>
>  - Ken
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Tully Foote <tfoote at willowgarage.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Lorenz,
> > If you used rosinstall to install to ~/foo.  It is recommended to use
> > ~/rosinstall -u ~/foo.  This will go through and update all your source
> > checkouts in the rosinstall file.  As well as svn it also supports bzr
> and
> > git checkouts.
> >
> > As for the debian building infrastructure.  Right now it's not structured
> in
> > a way that a releasing it would be useful.  In the future we do plan to
> > streamline it and make it available.
> >
> > Tully
> >
> > 2010/3/9 Lorenz Mösenlechner <moesenle at in.tum.de>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> great work!
> >>
> >> Is there already a tutorial on how to build these debian packages? We
> >> are still using debian lenny and I'm curious if it would be hard for
> >> us to build the packages for our platform.
> >>
> >> And as a second remark, I couldn't find documentation on how to update
> >> the new installation when it's not based on debian packages but the
> >> svn repositories. Since it is discouraged to use the 'all' repository
> >> now and the rosinstall script just checks out lot's of small
> >> repositories, going into every dir and doing an svn up seems to be
> >> quite cumbersome. I found an update option in rosinstall, but I
> >> couldn't find any documentation for it. But is it the recommended way
> >> to do the update?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lorenz
> >>
> >>
> >> > Our first ROS Distribution release is here: Box Turtle. You can read
> >> > our announcement at:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.ros.org/news/2010/03/ros-distributions-box-turtle-release.html
> >> >
> >> > Kudos to Morgan Quigley for bringing apt-get to ROS!
> >> >
> >> > For developers, we want to highlight a few more things that come with
> >> > this release. The first is that we are providing support (i.e. bug
> >> > fixes) for the 1.0 stacks in this release, which cover most of our
> >> > core capabilities, like navigation.
> >> >
> >> > Second, our bleeding edge development will be in the "Latest" release,
> >> > out of which we will hatch "C Turtle".
> >> >
> >> > We strongly encourage transitioning off of:
> >> >
> >> >  https://code.ros.org/svn/wg-ros-pkg/all/
> >> >
> >> > as it links against these bleeding-edge versions. Our ROS installation
> >> > instructions [1] provide 'rosinstall' files with several
> >> > configurations for SVN checkout. You can also fetch all of our
> >> > released stacks (including PR2 stacks) from:
> >> >
> >> >   https://code.ros.org/svn/wg-ros-pkg/externals/boxturtle/
> >> >
> >> > Third, we want to say thank you, especially to the early adopters, for
> >> > sticking with us as ROS went through its growing pains to reach this
> >> > first distribution. We've done our best to take your feedback about
> >> > stability, documentation, and tutorials, and tried to roll it into our
> >> > first ROS distribution. There were many deprecations and changes along
> >> > the way, but we've now arrived at a new release process that
> >> > identifies stable libraries and provides an easier migration process
> >> > forward. We hope this will provide what you've been looking for. If
> >> > not, we're always listening for feedback.
> >> >
> >> > Finally, to repeat an administrative note, wg-ros-pkg/trunk/sandbox
> >> > has been emptied and deprecated packages deleted. We've created a
> >> > boxturtle branch of wg-ros-pkg/trunk [2] that you can checkout on top
> >> > of  Box Turtle.
> >> >
> >> > There are a lot of cool things in the works for C Turtle. In the
> >> > meantime, enjoy Box Turtle and let us know what you think!
> >> >
> >> >  -- your friendly neighborhood ROS turtle hatchery
> >> >
> >> > [1]: http://ros.org/wiki/ROS/Installation
> >> > [2]: https://code.ros.org/svn/wg-ros-pkg/branches/trunk_boxturtle/
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Lorenz Mösenlechner            | moesenle at in.tum.de
> >> Technische Universität München | Boltzmannstr. 3
> >> 85748 Garching bei München     | Germany
> >> http://ias.cs.tum.edu/         | Tel: +49 (89) 289-17750
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Tully Foote
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> > tfoote at willowgarage.com
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