[ros-users] Idea for wiki macro -- link to mailing list threads

[Eric Perko]

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Patrick Bouffard <bouffard at eecs.berkeley.edu
> wrote:

> I think that it's simply:
>
> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@th
> :<id>.en.html
>
>
This error page is actually pretty revealing:
https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.0000000@ml:ros-users,th:d2ff88fe.en.xml
.
Note that at the end it specifies what format it expects. The Date/Time
included in there seems to be what the "Jump" button at the bottom of the
search page sets. For displaying a single thread it probably doesn't matter.


> The 20380101 looks to be a default date that's far in the future. I
> noticed that the same result will come up with the mailing list name
> added, i.e.:
>
>
> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:ros-users,th:d2ff88fe.en.xml
>
> And this might be good to add to the macro even if only the id is
> required to specify the thread completely--that way by looking at the
> link you're about to click you can see what list it will be taking you
> to.
>
> So how about:
>
> Lurker<<LISTNAME, ID>>
>
> becomes:
>
> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml
> :<LISTNAME>,th:<ID>.en.xml
>

Another option would be to bypass the search completely and go straight to
the thread view. e.g.:
https://code.ros.org/lurker/thread/20090401.024344.009c814d.en.html . That
seems to be formatted like <YYYYMMDD.UTCTIME.hashcode>.<language for
interface>.html . The date/time in that case corresponds to the date that
the thread was started. There is a similar syntax for the /message if we
wanted to be able to link to a specific message.

Is it more useful to have the search view for the thread or the the tree
view for the thread?

- Eric


>
> Pat
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Ken Conley <kwc at willowgarage.com> wrote:
> > This does sound useful.  If you can figure out the algorithm/API for
> expanding
> >
> > d2ff88fe
> >
> > to
> >
> >
> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@th:d2ff88fe.en.html
> >
> > I would be happy to turn it into a macro on our Wiki.  I don't know
> > enough about Lurker and the URL-generation scheme isn't as obvious as
> > our other macros (e.g. Youtube, Trac).
> >
> >  - Ken
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Bouffard
> > <bouffard at eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> >> It's often the case that for some particular item on the wiki there is
> >> much more information available in discussions in the mailing lists,
> >> though it's not practical (or even a good idea) to add all that detail
> >> to the wiki itself. As the list archives grow however it's becoming
> >> harder to find relevant information by a simple keyword search.
> >>
> >> We can currently link to wiki pages from the mailing list simply by
> >> pasting in the appropriate URL. Could we also enable the reverse, with
> >> a wiki macro that links to the lurker archive of a particular thread?
> >> Similar to the bug tracker macro. So something like:
> >>
> >> <<Lurker(THREAD_ID)>>
> >>
> >> e.g.,
> >>
> >> <<Lurker(d2ff88fe)>>
> >>
> >> .. would expand to:
> >>
> >>
> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@th:d2ff88fe.en.html
> >>
> >> And would be rendered with something like *[ML], where * is a little
> >> envelope icon or something like that.
> >>
> >> Then in the wiki we can add these links pointing to discussion threads
> >> that are relevant to that part of the wiki. This could include threads
> >> on ros-developers that relate to design decisions, or threads on
> >> ros-users that have some detailed discussion on some feature.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if this is technically possible, but perhaps the mailing
> >> list could even be configured so that the lurker thread id is printed
> >> at the bottom of every message to make it dead easy to know what
> >> thread id to use.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Pat
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> >>
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