[ros-users] Idea for wiki macro -- link to mailing list threads

[Patrick Bouffard]

Good points Eric.

Probably the tree view is better for threads. Looking at bit more at
the Lurker URLs, I think we can actually get both behaviours with one
macro:

<<Lurker(ARG)>>

...translates to:

https://code.ros.org/lurker/<ARG>.en.html

...and <ARG> can be, for a link to a particular message:

message/<YYYYMMDD.UTCTIME.hashcode>

...or for its associated thread:

thread/<YYYYMMDD.UTCTIME.hashcode>

Pat

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Eric Perko <wisesage5001 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Patrick Bouffard
> <bouffard at eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I think that it's simply:
>>
>>
>> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@th:<id>.en.html
>>
>
> This error page is actually pretty
> revealing: https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.0000000@ml:ros-users,th:d2ff88fe.en.xml .
> Note that at the end it specifies what format it expects. The Date/Time
> included in there seems to be what the "Jump" button at the bottom of the
> search page sets. For displaying a single thread it probably doesn't matter.
>
>>
>> The 20380101 looks to be a default date that's far in the future. I
>> noticed that the same result will come up with the mailing list name
>> added, i.e.:
>>
>>
>> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:ros-users,th:d2ff88fe.en.xml
>>
>> And this might be good to add to the macro even if only the id is
>> required to specify the thread completely--that way by looking at the
>> link you're about to click you can see what list it will be taking you
>> to.
>>
>> So how about:
>>
>> Lurker<<LISTNAME, ID>>
>>
>> becomes:
>>
>>
>> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:<LISTNAME>,th:<ID>.en.xml
>
> Another option would be to bypass the search completely and go straight to
> the thread view.
> e.g.: https://code.ros.org/lurker/thread/20090401.024344.009c814d.en.html .
> That seems to be formatted like <YYYYMMDD.UTCTIME.hashcode>.<language for
> interface>.html . The date/time in that case corresponds to the date that
> the thread was started. There is a similar syntax for the /message if we
> wanted to be able to link to a specific message.
> Is it more useful to have the search view for the thread or the the tree
> view for the thread?
> - Eric
>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Ken Conley <kwc at willowgarage.com> wrote:
>> > This does sound useful.  If you can figure out the algorithm/API for
>> > expanding
>> >
>> > d2ff88fe
>> >
>> > to
>> >
>> >
>> > https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@th:d2ff88fe.en.html
>> >
>> > I would be happy to turn it into a macro on our Wiki.  I don't know
>> > enough about Lurker and the URL-generation scheme isn't as obvious as
>> > our other macros (e.g. Youtube, Trac).
>> >
>> >  - Ken
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Bouffard
>> > <bouffard at eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>> >> It's often the case that for some particular item on the wiki there is
>> >> much more information available in discussions in the mailing lists,
>> >> though it's not practical (or even a good idea) to add all that detail
>> >> to the wiki itself. As the list archives grow however it's becoming
>> >> harder to find relevant information by a simple keyword search.
>> >>
>> >> We can currently link to wiki pages from the mailing list simply by
>> >> pasting in the appropriate URL. Could we also enable the reverse, with
>> >> a wiki macro that links to the lurker archive of a particular thread?
>> >> Similar to the bug tracker macro. So something like:
>> >>
>> >> <<Lurker(THREAD_ID)>>
>> >>
>> >> e.g.,
>> >>
>> >> <<Lurker(d2ff88fe)>>
>> >>
>> >> .. would expand to:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://code.ros.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@th:d2ff88fe.en.html
>> >>
>> >> And would be rendered with something like *[ML], where * is a little
>> >> envelope icon or something like that.
>> >>
>> >> Then in the wiki we can add these links pointing to discussion threads
>> >> that are relevant to that part of the wiki. This could include threads
>> >> on ros-developers that relate to design decisions, or threads on
>> >> ros-users that have some detailed discussion on some feature.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure if this is technically possible, but perhaps the mailing
>> >> list could even be configured so that the lurker thread id is printed
>> >> at the bottom of every message to make it dead easy to know what
>> >> thread id to use.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Pat
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