[ros-users] Please create topics for this mailinglist

Jit Ray Chowdhury jit.ray.c at gmail.com
Tue Sep 1 08:34:34 UTC 2015


I do like the idea, even thought I would still subscribe to all topics.

I see one problem in this implementation, there is no topic for
general/misc.

So what will happen is many would miss this discussion here and would
continue to post without topics even for jobs and software
and it would become hard for moderator reply to every such mail asking them
to add topic.

It would be better that every post should have a topic so that mailing list
can auto filter mails without any topic.
so may be jobs, software , meetings,  news  , misc or something like this.

We might have some white-listed person allowed to post without topic but
everyone else must classify with a topic.

Regards
Jit Ray Chowdhury
Co-Founder, Director & CTO  | AuRo Robotics | www.aurobots.com
(+1) 669 600 9559 <+16696009559> | www.jitrc.com

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Stephan Opfer via ros-users <
ros-users at lists.ros.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> hmmm, a more complete proposal... let's give it a try. :)
>
> I would suggest to introduce the following topics:
>
> [meetings]:
> Meetings is for announcing meetings/conferences etc. Like ROSCon, local
> ROS-Usergroup meetings, other robotic related meetings, and conferences.
>
> [jobs]:
> Here companies and research institutes announce job offers.
>
> [software]:
> You have a new ROS package to announce? This is the topic you should use.
> I think about announcements like: "We developed a new XYZ-SLAM algorithm.
> The documentation is available here... etc."
>
> Everything else can still be posted without any topic. If it seems
> necessary to use further topics in future, we can add them on demand.
>
> The official documentation about mailman topics can be found here:
> http://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%202.1%20Members%20Manual#A9_Mailing_list_topics
>
>
> Things that topics would change:
>
> 1) Those who want to receive every mail as before, nothing has to be done.
>
> 2) Those who want to announce job offers (or something else related to
> another topic), need to use the [jobs] topic, in order to reach those who
> are only subscribed to the [jobs] topic. Missing to add the topic, would
> mean, that those who don't want to receive job offers, receive it and those
> who only want to receive job offers, don't receive it.
>
> 2.1) The set of strings, which will match the [job] topic, can be
> described as a regular expression in mailman. This means, that the topic
> can and should be made case-insensitive, as well as it should ignore
> arbitrary white spaces: [ Jobs], [ jOBs ], [JOBS] ... will always be
> recognized and send as [jobs]
>
> 3) Those who wants to use the new feature need to ...
>
> 3.1) ... login on "http://lists.ros.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-users" by
> entering their registered mail address in the bottom text field and press
> the "unsubscribe or edit options" button.
>
> 3.2) Enter their password at the top text field on the appearing page and
> press the "Log in" button.
>
> 3.3) Scroll down on the next page until you see the two following options:
>
> "Which topic categories would you like to subscribe to?" -> Check the
> topics you want to receive.
>
> "Do you want to receive messages that do not match any topic filter?" ->
> Choose "yes" or "no".
>
> I think thats it.
>
> Greetings,
>   Stephan
>
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> On 31.08.2015 20:22, Sachin Chitta wrote:
>
>> These are the categories that robotics-worldwide uses:
>>
>> [meetings] [jobs] [journals] [software] [news]
>>
>> Seems like a good place to start.
>>
>> Sachin
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Tully Foote via ros-users <
>> ros-users at lists.ros.org <mailto:ros-users at lists.ros.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Stephan,
>>
>>     Looking at our mailman instance it does appear to support topics. The
>> technical process of adding them looks to be relatively simple. There's a
>> flip side which is it will also require updating our community policies for
>> posting, including educating our users how to use topics effectively, both
>> as posters as well as subscribers.
>>
>>     I personally have never used topics on a mailing list and don't know
>> best practices and how they will effect the community. There are several
>> important decisions such as what are the choice of topics. Also decisions
>> to change topics in the future may require anyone using topics to log in
>> and update their subscription settings which suboptimal, since it looks
>> like if you select to subscribe to specific topics everything else gets
>> dropped. Similarly there are statements in the documentation about messages
>> being sent not being delivered to the list if not categorized.
>>
>>     If you'd be willing to put together a more complete proposal and
>> possibly link to some resources for people to learn about mailman topics.
>> That will make it clearer to the community what the implications would be,
>> and that would help us find a path forward.
>>
>>     Tully
>>
>>     On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Stephan Opfer via ros-users <
>> ros-users at lists.ros.org <mailto:ros-users at lists.ros.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         My original idea, was to suggest, that the list admin presses 3
>> buttons and enters some topics. That alone would change nothing for
>> anybody, except for those who don't want to receive certain topics. They
>> could make the list not even deliver the mails to their mail-server, in
>> order to save resources like memory, traffic, etc.
>>
>>         If it is not that easy, as I thought, I will create local message
>> filters, which delete certain topics.
>>
>>         So @listadmin: Please just give me feedback on that.
>>
>>         Greetings,
>>            Stephan
>>
>>
>>         On 25.08.2015 19 <tel:25.08.2015%2019>:03, Scott C. Livingston
>> via ros-users wrote:
>>
>>             The OP was about adding topic prefixes, e.g., as on the
>>             robotics-worldwide mailing list,
>>
>> http://duerer.usc.edu/pipermail/robotics-worldwide/2013-September/007064.html
>>
>>             There is no need for a new account, etc.
>>
>>             ~Scott
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